Ben Holtz, the marketing guy at MAC Recruiters did something unusual. He booked the owners of his company for back-to-back appearances on The Recruiting Animal Show.
Jeff Chaponick came first and, then, on April 29, 2015, his partner, John McAfee.
Both partners were polite but I'd say that John was a little more soft-spoken than Jeff. He sometimes gave yes or no answers and when I raised my voice he'd say, "Sorry" (which surprised me).
But, as you'll see when you listen (mixed metaphor), he delivered detailed descriptions of how he works as a recruiter -- which is what we want.
Now, the problems. There were no technical problems for once but I woke up at 3 a.m. the day of the show and couldn't get back to sleep so I was a bit dozy and a couple of times I got lost in the lead-up to the question and forgot what I was asking.
And, when I listened to the show, I could see that I cut him off more than I should have. Now, I believe in cutting guests off before they get boring but I made some mistakes this time around which I tried to correct when I edited the clips.
I could also see when I listened that I was gun-shy about my questions. When Jeff was on the week before I asked great questions but the mob didn't like them so, this time, I was too quick to say "Maybe this isn't a good question. Maybe we should move on." That was foolish.
Also participating were Alejandro Guzman, Mike Cox and Jeremy Roberts. Jerry wasn't there so Mike Cox tried to hassle me about the questions and Alex tried to talk over me to compensate for his absence.
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Animal - Intro - 4 Kinds of Luck -- 3:45 min
John McAfee - How long did it take you to get good - 2:45 min
John McAfee - The Story of a Fall Off - 1:20 min
John McAfee - Send Out 3 Candidates - 1:30 min
John McAfee - Counter Offers - 3:30 min
John McAfee - The Natural Connector - 1:45 min
John McAfee - Selling The Job - 2:20 min
John McAfee - Team Structure of a Big Biller - 3 min
John McAfee - Sourcing - 1:40 min
John Mcafee - Have you ever had a dry spell - 40 sec
John Mcafee - Market Mastery - 2:30 min
John Mcafee - The Making of a Market Master - 1:55 min
John McAfee - Michael Cox Complains - 1 min
John Mcafee - How many times do you call back - 50 sec
John McAfee - How To Build Trust - 2 min
John McAfee - Candidate immediately asks about money - 2:20 min
John McAfee - How do you get referrals - 1 min
John McAfee - Candidate Rejected For Appearance - 2 min
John McAfee - I couldn't work alone - 40 sec
John McAfee - How to be a recruiting manager - 1:40 min
John Mcafee - The Big Biller Paradox - 45 sec
John McAfee - Buddy calls are better than solos - 55 sec
John McAfee - Social Media Recruiting - 1:30 min
John McAfee - Inbound Marketing - 2:20 min
John McAfee - Full Show 15 04 29 - 60 min